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RaleighCraps
My question is, when does the slot machine determine what the spin result will be?
Is the outcome determined when the button is pressed to initiate the spin sequence, or
is the outcome determined at some later time after the reels have started spinning?
If I understand the new slots, the outcome is solely determined by the electronics. The reels are purely there for visuals for the player. However, when I am playing a slot machine, I can hit the button at any time to stop the reels sooner than they would have stopped.
When I use the button to stop the reels, am I getting a different outcome than I would have gotten had I let the reels stop on their own?
I am not asking if I am changing my chances of a win. I know that stopping the reels early has zero effect on that. I'm just curious if the outcome is determined at the initiation, which would mean the outcome is the exact same whether or not I stop the reels early, or if the outcome is determined at some later point, which might mean I get a different outcome depending on when I stop the reels.
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rsactuary


When I use the button to stop the reels, am I getting a different outcome than I would have gotten had I let the reels stop on their own?


No. The moment you hit the button to start the game, the random numbers are chosen... the spinning of the wheels is just to build excitement.. you are not changing the final result by hitting the button a second time to stop the wheels.Boi slot machine outcomes tool
darkoz

No. The moment you hit the button to start the game, the random numbers are chosen... the spinning of the wheels is just to build excitement.. you are not changing the final result by hitting the button a second time to stop the wheels.


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Not to be argumentative but because I know slot machines don't always do this let me state:
Some slots are affected by the second hit that stops the reels spinning.
And some don't matter.
You can tell if the reels are a 'slower' spin and when you stop the machine because something passes by if that symbol stays on the machine then you definitely had an effect by stopping the machine.
There are other machines where when you stop the reels at the symbol you see, either a) the symbol completely disappears mysteriously or b) the reels pick up speed on the second push so you miss the symbol anyway. These machines do not have any decision made when you push the button a second time.
I know a lot of people are going to jump on me for this but I am just annoyed at all the people who spout they know these machines when I have seen the evidence they are wrong. So go ahead, guys and beat me up on this.
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DRich


I know a lot of people are going to jump on me for this but I am just annoyed at all the people who spout they know these machines when I have seen the evidence they are wrong. So go ahead, guys and beat me up on this.


I am not going to jump on you but I will say that I have programmed games for many large slot machine manufacturers and that I haven't seen one in the last 15 years where stopping the reels early gives a different result.
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Zcore13

Not to be argumentative but because I know slot machines don't always do this let me state:
Some slots are affected by the second hit that stops the reels spinning.
And some don't matter.
You can tell if the reels are a 'slower' spin and when you stop the machine because something passes by if that symbol stays on the machine then you definitely had an effect by stopping the machine.
There are other machines where when you stop the reels at the symbol you see, either a) the symbol completely disappears mysteriously or b) the reels pick up speed on the second push so you miss the symbol anyway. These machines do not have any decision made when you push the button a second time.
I know a lot of people are going to jump on me for this but I am just annoyed at all the people who spout they know these machines when I have seen the evidence they are wrong. So go ahead, guys and beat me up on this.


You're wrong. You thinking you see something doesn't make it true. Even when you stop the reels, it still goes to a predetermined outcome. You cannot cause it to win by stopping reels when it wasn't going to.
ZCore13
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darkoz

You're wrong. You thinking you see something doesn't make it true. Even when you stop the reels, it still goes to a predetermined outcome. You cannot cause it to win by stopping reels when it wasn't going to.
ZCore13


So if I find a slot machine where I can provide video evidence this is true? I am so confident I can prove this I will go with a video phone (and hoping the casino doesn't stop me) show that I am not full of crap.
Then when everyone sees it what will you say? Just because everyone sees it does not make it true?
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zoobrew
Are the amount of the bonus win also determined at the time the spin button is pressed? Lets says I have the choice of choosing A, B or C, will I win $10 no matter which letter I choose or does A=5, B=10, or C=20 and my choice determines the amount of the win.
Also if you win free spins on a bonus, do you win a predetermined amount of money or is every spin a new random event?
Are the answers to these questions determined by the slot manufacture or the state gaming commission?
Are all those people who pull their slot card out of the machine when they hit a bonus, wasting their time trying to keep the casino from knowing about their winnings?
Hunterhill
Please post the video as soon as you get it.You should be able to put the phone in your pocket and record with out any one noticing.
darkoz

Please post the video as soon as you get it.You should be able to put the phone in your pocket and record with out any one noticing.


Certainly. I will be in AC near the end of the week.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
rsactuary

Are the amount of the bonus win also determined at the time the spin button is pressed? Lets says I have the choice of choosing A, B or C, will I win $10 no matter which letter I choose or does A=5, B=10, or C=20 and my choice determines the amount of the win.
Also if you win free spins on a bonus, do you win a predetermined amount of money or is every spin a new random event?
Are the answers to these questions determined by the slot manufacture or the state gaming commission?
Are all those people who pull their slot card out of the machine when they hit a bonus, wasting their time trying to keep the casino from knowing about their winnings?


Boi slot machine outcomes toolI *believe* the answers are as follows (but not 100% sure):
The amount of the bonus win is NOT determined at the time of the spin (but whether you line up the symbols to get a bonus round is). I saw a Wiz article where he believed that if you made a choice in the bonus game and then it showed you the results from the other options afterwards, that it is a fair game and that your choice makes a difference in how much you win. If it doesn't show you the options that you didn't pick.. then it very well might be pre-determined.
I think every spin is a new random event in the bonus rounds as well.. although the reels might be different than the regular game (WMS reels are definitely different)
I would say that the answers to these questions are determined by the slot manufacturer, however a game wouldn't be approved by state gaming commission if it didn't meet minimum standards for payback etc.
From reading on here, I believe it used to be that removing your card kept winnings from being recorded, but that has all changed now.
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Readers ask if quick reflexes are the key to winning

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By John Grochowski

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I keep a list of questions that I’m most often asked about slot machines. You could probably tick off some of them: “Are games programmed to go cold after a big win?” “Do you get less payback when you use your rewards card?” And the big one, “Can you tell me how to win?”

Those have been standards ever since I started writing about casinos and casino games 20 years ago. But recently, another question has been shooting up the charts. I have it all the way up at No. 2 on the readers’ hit parade:

“I’ve noticed on a lot of video slot games that if I hit the button a second time while the reels are spinning, they stop right away. I was wondering if I could use this to my advantage. If I see the bonus triggers or the jackpot symbols at the top, should I quickly hit the button again and try to stop the reels?”

I had that thought myself the first time I accidentally double-hit a button and saw the reels click to an immediate halt. Could this be an answer to the chart-topping question, “how to win on the slots?”

Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way. In nearly all slot games that allow you to stop the reels, there is no skill or timing involved on your part. The random number generator has already determined your outcome when you hit the button to spin the reels, and you’re going to get the same result regardless of whether you stop the reels early, or let them halt in their own time.

When you play a slot machine, the game isn’t actually being played out on the reels, whether it uses “real” reels or video reels. It’s being played internally, on the game’s random number generator. The reels are just a player-friendly interface, and are told where to stop by the RNG. If there’s a malfunction and the reel display doesn’t match the numbers generated, it’s the RNG that counts. Large jackpots can be denied—and have been denied—if a check shows the random numbers on the internal computer chip don’t match the winning symbols on the reels.

But this is extremely rare. The engineering is good enough that almost all the time, the RNG and reel display are going to match up. This doesn’t change if you double-hit the bet button. If the RNG has spit out a random number that tells the first reel to stop on a single bar, then you’re going to get a single bar—regardless of whether you hit the button a second time for a “quick stop,” or just let them take their own sweet time.

There are rare exceptions. When I’ve answered similar questions in the past, I’ve mentioned IGT’s Reel Edge games. In their original incarnation, Reel Edge games enabled players to touch and stop the reels one at a time. There was actual skill involved. Your timing in stopping the reels determined the outcome. The reels spun very, very fast, so it was going take a keen eye and sharp reflexes to get better than random results, but it was possible.

I gave it a try, and found my reflexes just weren’t fast enough to generate more than my normal share of winners. In the original three-reel Blood Life game, I identified a green 7 as the easiest symbol to pick out as it whizzed by. I touched each reel individually as I saw a green 7 reach the top of the slot window, and managed to stop 7s on all three reels. Alas, I failed to land them all on the same payline. Some younger folks with quicker reactions may have been able to do better.

I don’t know if any of the first generation of Reel Edge games remain on casino floors. They were never widespread, and I don’t get lists from casinos or manufacturers telling me what games are available in any given casino. The new generation of Reel Edge puts the skill-based portions of the games in the bonus events.

Blood Life’s updated video incarnation, Blood Life Legends, allows you to test your skill with a joystick to guide a bat through the ups, downs, twists and turns of a cave as you try to collect gems for bonuses. There is actual skill involved, but it’s not the reel-stopping experience readers have been asking about.

On most slot games, even in the bonus events you’re getting an illusion of skill rather than actual skill. And when it comes to stopping the reels, it’s the random number generator, not your reflexes, that determines the results.

What about my readers’ other top questions?

To answer another—no, games are not programmed to go cold after big wins. Results remain as random as humans can program a computer to be. As long as the RNG keeps doing its thing, any big jackpot, any hot streak, and any cold streak eventually fade away into statistical insignificance, and the machine comes very close to its expected payback percentage.

No, you don’t get less payback when you use your rewards card. The player rewards system doesn’t interact with the RNG.

And no, with rare exceptions, there is no way to beat the slots except by being in the right place at the right time. There have been opportunities for small profit on games with banked bonuses such as the old WMS game Piggy Bankin’, where the sharpies would start to play only when there were enough coins in the bank to give the player an edge.

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Such games are not common. Just as with stopping the reels early, your results are up to chance and the RNG.